So it can be helpful to hear the stories of others mistakes to avoid them ourselves.

Caleb:What do you mean you maxed it out?

Max it out ormaxedit out?

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Rylie:I got confused with the credit debt and the credit limit.

So my parents got me a credit card.

And I ended up getting a max credit limit of $8,000.

Interviewer Gives 20 Y.O. A Reality Check After She Jokes About Her $4k Credit Card Debt

So I could spend up to $8,000.

Thats what that means, right?

Oh, Ill spend the money, dont worry about it, its just a credit card.

Interviewer Gives 20 Y.O. A Reality Check After She Jokes About Her $4k Credit Card Debt

So I would pay and pay and pay and pay.

And then I called my mom one day, and I wanted her to be proud of me.

So I was just like, Hey, Ive got $4,000 credit on my credit card.

Interviewer Gives 20 Y.O. A Reality Check After She Jokes About Her $4k Credit Card Debt

And shes like, Credit limit or credit debt?

I was like, Whats debt?

And shes like, Oh, thats bad.

Interviewer Gives 20 Y.O. A Reality Check After She Jokes About Her $4k Credit Card Debt

Im like, Oh, really?

So its $4,000 debt, then.

Shes like, Thats bad.

Interviewer Gives 20 Y.O. A Reality Check After She Jokes About Her $4k Credit Card Debt

Why did you do that?

Im like, I thought that was good.

Shes like, No, your credit limit at the time was $8,000.

Interviewer Gives 20 Y.O. A Reality Check After She Jokes About Her $4k Credit Card Debt

So I was like, Okay, well, the credit limit is $8,000.

Thats good, right?

And shes like, Yes, but you are $4,000 in debt.

Interviewer Gives 20 Y.O. A Reality Check After She Jokes About Her $4k Credit Card Debt

Caleb:When was this?

Rylie:Last year.

Caleb:Okay, and then what?

Interviewer Gives 20 Y.O. A Reality Check After She Jokes About Her $4k Credit Card Debt

Rylie:And then theyre like, Screw it, youre not gonna pay this off in time.

Give it to me.

So my parents took it and theyre still currently paying it off right now.

Interviewer Gives 20 Y.O. A Reality Check After She Jokes About Her $4k Credit Card Debt

Rylie:Theyve been paying it off from $4,000.

They just basically gave up and said Youre not gonna pay this in time.

So just give it to me.

Interviewer Gives 20 Y.O. A Reality Check After She Jokes About Her $4k Credit Card Debt

And then well payit.

And then whenever…

Caleb:Listen, I dont want you to suffer in debt.

But is that helping you?

Interviewer Gives 20 Y.O. A Reality Check After She Jokes About Her $4k Credit Card Debt

Is that teaching you?

I dont think so.

I think theyre done.

Interviewer Gives 20 Y.O. A Reality Check After She Jokes About Her $4k Credit Card Debt

That sounds like some form of enablement to me.

Im like, okay, cool.

And you could use it, and then you could pay that off.

Interviewer Gives 20 Y.O. A Reality Check After She Jokes About Her $4k Credit Card Debt

Caleb:Why are they just like funding [your life]… You make money?

Caleb:Wheres the money going where you cant take care of yourself as an adult?

You wanted to move out, like an adult.

Interviewer Gives 20 Y.O. A Reality Check After She Jokes About Her $4k Credit Card Debt

Caleb:But you have to rely on them taking care of you?

Why cant you take care of yourowns**t?

Rylie:Well, I can.

Interviewer Gives 20 Y.O. A Reality Check After She Jokes About Her $4k Credit Card Debt

I mean…

Caleb:Then why dont you?

Rylie:I do, I do.

Caleb:Thats insane, you cant afford to live.

Interviewer Gives 20 Y.O. A Reality Check After She Jokes About Her $4k Credit Card Debt

You cant afford to go out.

Rylie:Yes, I can.

Caleb:No, you cant!

Interviewer Gives 20 Y.O. A Reality Check After She Jokes About Her $4k Credit Card Debt

The income that came in was $1,600, rentis$1,400.

Thats your needs, 80%.

Rylie:Girl math.

Interviewer Gives 20 Y.O. A Reality Check After She Jokes About Her $4k Credit Card Debt

Caleb:This is not a joke.

Rylie:Im not treating it as a joke.

Caleb:*Its girl math.

Interviewer Gives 20 Y.O. A Reality Check After She Jokes About Her $4k Credit Card Debt

  • Math math says its about 80% of your income.

Rylie:Yeah, I mean, we get income from other ways too.

Caleb:Okay, I saw $128 came in from Lackland.

Interviewer Gives 20 Y.O. A Reality Check After She Jokes About Her $4k Credit Card Debt

And $263 came in from Cash App.

So even still, your rent of what, again?

Rylie:Almost $1,400

Caleb:Okay.

Interviewer Gives 20 Y.O. A Reality Check After She Jokes About Her $4k Credit Card Debt

You cannot afford it.

It shouldnt be higher than 30%.

Rylie:Well, what I do is I go donate on the side, too.

Interviewer Gives 20 Y.O. A Reality Check After She Jokes About Her $4k Credit Card Debt

Caleb:Nooffense, you could not move out.

Rylie:I did though.

Caleb:Yeah, but youre not affording it.

Interviewer Gives 20 Y.O. A Reality Check After She Jokes About Her $4k Credit Card Debt

And dont say I am affording it, because Ill tell you how youre not affording it.

Theyre paying your credit card bills.

Theyre taking care of expenses that pop up.

Interviewer Gives 20 Y.O. A Reality Check After She Jokes About Her $4k Credit Card Debt

You cant afford it.

Rylie:Im not being enabled.

Because your money is going to f**k you.

Interviewer Gives 20 Y.O. A Reality Check After She Jokes About Her $4k Credit Card Debt

Partially, this can be seen as a result of some social taboos around discussing money.

How they spend it is often a reflection of what they have seen their parents do.

Its not ascamif a willing and informed adult signed off on it.

Interviewer Gives 20 Y.O. A Reality Check After She Jokes About Her $4k Credit Card Debt

One example of this, at least in the US, are the ever-discussed student loans.

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